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Recent posts here on the Forum and on Facebook, by long time fans of BETM regarding which Billy performed on certain dates in the past, has got me thinking.

As many of you know, there are significant gaps in the tracking of who played Billy in London prior to 2010. The data may or may not have been captured from the show's beginning in 2005 to 2010 and subsequently lost. At least it doesn't exist in the archives here or any other place online that I've been able to find. My records show that we don't have the information as to who played Billy for 119 shows between January of 2009 and January of 2011. Before 2009, there is almost no data recorded.

So I wondered if it were possible, by asking long time Billy fans who attended performances at the VPT in those years, to fill in those gaps from what personal records they may have (such as ticket stubs, notes etc). I've seen several people list the Billys they've seen since the first show they've attended, for example. Do those people have records to document when they saw a particular Billy on that list I wonder?

So I thought I'd give it a shot in at least reducing those 119 "unknowns". I'm asking for help in the above. We'll start with just one month and determine if there's enough of a response to expand the request to other months.

So starting with the month of June, 2009, I'm looking for who played Billy on the following dates: 2,3, 4 (E), 5, 6 (M), 9, 10, 13 (M), 15, 19, 20 (M), 29 -- where E = the evening performance and M = the matinee performance.

If you can help fill in the info for any of the above dates, please post the information in this thread. I'll then update my records.

Who knows? Maybe it'll lead to having complete records for another Billy or two as a result.
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Here is what I can confirm:


Mo,22.5.06 Leon-Colin Ryan Leigh

Sa,17.6.06 Mat Matthew Shaun Leyci
Sa,17.6.06 Eve Leon Ryan Leigh
Mo,19.6.06 Matthew Shaun Leyci

Th,7.9.06 Mat Matthew Brad Brooke
Th,7.9.06 Eve Colin Shaun Leigh
Fr,8.9.06 Liam Ryan Leigh
Sa,9.9.06 Mat Liam Ryan Leigh
Sa,9.9.06 Eve Matthew Shaun Leyci

Th,5.10.06 Mat Travis Brad Brooke
Th,5.10.06 Eve Matthew Shaun Leyci
Fr,6.10.06 Travis Ryan Leyci
Sa,7.10.06 Mat Leon Ryan Leigh
Sa,7.10.06 Eve Travis Shaun Leyci

Tu,21.11.06 Leon Shaun Leyci
We,22.11.06 Liam Ryan Leigh
Th,23.11.06 Mat Leon Brad Brooke

Sa,20.1.07 Mat Colin Ryan Leigh
Sa,20.1.07 Eve Dean Shaun Leyci
Mo,22.1.07 Travis Ryan

Fr,23.2.07 Leon Ryan Leyci
Sa,24.2.07 Eve Colin Ryan

Sa,3.3.07 Mat Layton Shaun Leyci
Mo,5.3.07 Leon Ryan Leigh
We,7.3.07 Travis Jonty Amy
Thu,8.3.07 Mat Leon Ryan Leigh
Thu,8.3.07 Eve Dean Jonty Amy
Sa,10.3.07 Mat Layton Shaun Leigh
Sa,10.3.07 Eve Dean Jonty Amy
Mo,12.3.07 Layton Shaun Amy / Leicy
Fr,16.3.07 Dean Ryan Leigh
Sa,17.3.07 Eve Leon Ryan Leigh

Mo,28.5.07 Leon Shaun Leyci
We,30.5.07 Travis Ryan Leigh
Thu,31.5.07 Mat Corey Shaun Leyci
Thu,31.5.07 Eve Leon Ryan Leigh
Sa,2.6.07 Mat Corey Jonty Amy
Sa,2.6.07 Eve Leon Ryan Leigh
Mo,4.6.07 Corey Ryan Amy
Tu,5.6.07 Layton Ryan Leyci
Sa,9.6.07 Mat Leon Jonty Amy
Mo,18.6.07 Oliver Jonty Amy
We,20.6.07 Oliver Jonty Leigh
Th,21.6.07 Mat Corey Travis Leigh
Fr,22.6.07 Oliver Travis Amy
Sa,23.6.07 Eve Leon Travis Amy

Sa,1.9.07 Eve Travis Ryan Leigh

Th,15.11.07 Eve Sam Jonty Amy
Fr,16.11.07 Joshua Jonty Amy
Sa,17.11.07 Mat Oliver Ryan Leigh
Sa,17.11.07 Eve Layton Jonty Amy

Fr,30.11.07 Sam Ryan
Sa,1.12.07 Mat Joshua Shaun
Sa,1.12.07 Eve Oliver Ryan Leigh

Sa,16.2.08 Mat Trent Daniel Scarlet
Sa,16.2.08 Eve Sam / Trent Jonty Leyci
Mo,18.2.08 Trent Daniel Scarlet
Tu,19.2.08 Joshua Jonty Leyci
We,20.2.08 Corey Shaun Amy
Thu,21.2.08 Mat Trent Shaun Leyci
Thu,21.2.08 Eve Sam Jonty Amy

Mo,12.5.08 Layton Jonty Scarlet
Tu, 13.5.08 Corey Shaun Leyci

We, 28.5.08 Corey Daniel Scarlet
Th, 29.5.08 Eve Hogan Lewis Amy
Sa,31.5.08 Eve Joshua Daniel Leyci
Mo, 2.6.08 Hogan Lewis Megan
We, 4.6.08 Hogan Shaun Alicia
Th, 5.6.08 Mat Joshua Shaun Scarlet
Th, 5.6.08 Eve Trent Jonty Megan
Fr, 6.6.08 Corey Shaun Alicia
Sa,7.6.08 Eve Trent Shaun Scarlet

Sa, 5.7.08 Eve missed Corey's Last

Sa, 29.11.08 Mat Fox Lewis Scarlet
Sa, 29.11.08 Eve Layton Shaun Alicia
Mo, 1.12.08 Brad Lewis Annabel

Sa,17.1.09 Mat Brad / Fox Lewis
Sa,17.1.09 Eve Fox Lewis

Mo, 11.5.09 Tom Dean Charles Megan
Tu, 12.5.09 Ollie II George Annabel
We, 13.5.09 Brad Lewis Scarlet
Th, 14.5.09 Eve Brad George Megan

Fr, 28.8.09 Brad Jake Fleur
Sa, 29.8.09 Mat Tom Connor Francesca
Sa, 29.8.09 Eve Tanner Jake Fleur

We, 31.3.10 Tom Connor K Francesca
Th, 1.4.10 Mat Dean Charles Jake Fleur
Th, 1.4.10 Eve Rhys Connor K Francesca
Fr, 2.4.10 Tom Connor Emily S

We, 7.7.10 Mat :!: NYC Alex Jake
We, 7.7.10 Eve :!: NYC Michael Kylend

Sa, 27.11.10 Eve Dean Charles Connor K Fleur

Fr, 8.4.11 Josh Baker Reece Francesca
Sa, 9.4.11 Mat Dean Charles Connor L Emily W
Sa, 9.4.11 Eve Rhys Joe Francesca

Tu, 12.5.11 :!: PORTLAND Lex Jacob Rebecca
We, 13.5.11 :!: PORTLAND Daniel Griffin Rebecca
Th, 14.5.11 :!: PORTLAND Giuseppe Jacob Rebecca
Fr, 15.5.11 :!: PORTLAND Lex Griffin unknown

Th, 15.9.11 Mat Josh Baker Connor L Emily S
Th, 15.9.11 Eve Adam Joe Francesca
Fr, 16.9.11 Ryan Connor L
Sa, 17.9.11 Mat Dean Charles Connor K Emily W
Mo, 19.9.11 Dean Charles Connor L Emily S

We, 5.9.12 Harrison Thomas Macy
Th, 6.9.12 Mat Redmand Connor K Macy
Fr, 7.9.12 Kaine Joe Macy
Sa, 8.9.12 Eve Redmand Jack Macy
Mo, 10.9.12 Harrison Thomas Millie

We, 27.11.13 Ali / Elliott Zach Dayna
Thu, 28.11.13 Mat Elliott Zach Dayna
Thu, 28.11.1 Eve Redmand Zak Demi
Fr, 29.11.13 Ali Zach Dayna
Sa, 30.11.13 Mat Bradley Freddie Millie
Sa, 30.11.13 Eve Elliott Zach Dayna

Thu, 10.4.14 Mat Bradley Zak Demi
Thu, 10.4.14 Eve Redmand Freddie Millie
Fr, 11.4.14 Mitchell Zak Demi
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Re: Looking For Help To Fill in the Gaps

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Thanks to everyone who has forwarded information to me on the Billy shows they've attended over the years. So far I've received info from five people, some of which is extensive. But every little bit helps... so if you have such records of your attendance at shows before 2010, especially the very early years in London (2005 to 2009), PLEASE send it along. I've begun entering the information into my spreadsheets and I'll give you all a report when I've completed my entry work. But be patient, as I've got quite a volume of info to get through :)
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porschesrule wrote:Recent posts here on the Forum and on Facebook, by long time fans of BETM regarding which Billy performed on certain dates in the past, has got me thinking.

My records show that we don't have the information as to who played Billy for 119 shows between January of 2009 and January of 2011. Before 2009, there is almost no data recorded.
My records reveal the following. These are performances I attended.

2005

Fri May 13 - James Lomas, Ashley Lloyd (Their first non-preview performance)

Thu Sep 8 Eve. - George Maguire, Brad Kavanaugh
Fri Sep 9 - Liam Mower, Ryan Longbottom
Sat Sep 10 Eve. - George Maguire, Brad
Mon Sep 12 - George Maguire, Brad

Thu Dec 15 Eve. - Leon Cooke, Joey Phillips
Fri Dec 16 - George Maguire, Brad
Sat Dec 17 Mat. - James Lomas, Brad
Eve. - George Maguire (last performance), Ryan

2006

Thu May 11 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Brad
Eve. - Matthew Koon, Ryan Longbottom
Fri May 12 GALA SHOW (James, George, Liam), Brad
Sat May 13 Mat. - Travis Yates, Brad
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Joey


Wed May 31 - Colin Bates, Brad
Thu Jun 1 Mat. - Travis Yates,Ryan
Eve. - Matthew Koon,Joey
Fri Jun 2 - Matthew Koon, Joey
Sat Jun 3 Mat. - Liam Mower, Brad
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Joey (last performance)
Mon Jun 5 - Colin Bates, Brad



Wed Aug 30 - Matthew Koon, Ryan

Thu Aug 31 Mat. - Colin Bates, Ryan
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Shaun Malone

Fri Sep 1 - Liam Mower, Brad

Sat Sep 2 Mat. - Liam Mower, Brad
Eve. - Matthew Koon, Ryan

Mon Sep 4 - Matthew Koon, Brad

Tue Sep 5 - Colin Bates, Ryan



Thu Sep 28 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Ryan
Eve. - Matthew Koon, Shaun

Fri Sep 29 - Liam Mower, Ryan
Sat Sep 30 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Ryan
Eve. - Liam Mower (OFFICIAL LAST), Brad

Mon Oct 2 - Travis Yates (RETURN), Ryan

Tue Oct 3 - - Leon Cooke, Brad



Wed Nov 22 - Liam Mower, Ryan (Charity Gala - Liam's actual last show)

Thu Nov 23 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Brad
Eve. - Travis Yates, Ryan

Fri Nov 24 - Matthew Koon, Brad

Sat Nov 25 Mat. - Travis Yates, Brad
Eve. - Matthew Koon, Brad

Mon Nov 27 - Travis Yates, Brad

Tue Nov 28 - Matthew Koon, Shaun Malone

Wed Nov 29 - Travis Yates, Ryan

Thu Nov 30 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Shaun
Eve. - Colin Bates, Ryan

Fri Dec 1 - Leon Cooke, Brad

Sat Dec 2 Mat. - Travis Yates, Ryan
Eve. - Matthew Koon, Brad (LAST SHOWS - BOTH)

Mon Dec 4 - Dean McCarthy, Jonty Bowyer (FIRST SHOWS - BOTH)

Tue Dec 5 - Colin Bates, Ryan


2007

Wed Feb 21 - Travis Yates, Shaun

Thu Feb 22 Mat. - Colin Bates, Shaun
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Ryan

Fri Feb 23 - Leon Cooke, Ryan

Sat Feb 24 Mat. - Dean McCarthy, Jonty
Eve. - Colin Bates (LAST SHOW) Ryan



Thu May 10 Mat. - Leon Cooke, Ryan
EvE. - Layton Williams, Shaun

Fri May 11 - Travis Yates, Shaun

Sat May 12 Mat. - Layton Williams, Shaun
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Ryan


Wed May 30 - Travis Yates,Ryan

Thu May 31 Mat. - Corey Snide, Shaun
Eve. - Leon Cooke, Ryan

Fri Jun 1 - Travis Yates,Jonty

Sat Jun 2 Mat. - Corey Snide,Jonty
Eve. - Leon Cooke (LAST SHOW)/Ryan

Mon June 4 - Corey Snide,Ryan




Wed Aug 29 - Corey Snide,Shaun

Thu Aug 30 Mat. - Oliver Taylor,Shaun
Eve. - Corey Snide, Ryan

Fri Aug 31 - Layton Williams, Jonty

Sat Sept 1 Mat. - Corey Snide, Jonty
Eve. - Travis Yates(LAST SHOW)/ Ryan

Mon Sept 3 - Sam Angell (FIRST SHOW)/ Ryan


Sat Nov 24 Mat. - Layton Williams,Jonty
Eve. - Sam Angell, Shaun

Mon Nov 26 - Joshua Fedrick, Shaun

Tue Nov 27 - Sam Angell, Jonty

Wed Nov 28 - Layton Williams,Ryan

Thu Nov 29 Mat. - Oliver Taylor,Ryan 83
Eve. - Layton Williams,Jonty

Fri Nov 30 - Sam Angell, Ryan

Sat Dec 1 Mat. - Joshua Fedrick, Shaun
Eve. - Oliver Taylor,Ryan (LAST SHOW FOR BOTH)

Mon Dec 3 - Joshua Fedrick, Shaun


2008

Fri MAR 28 - Corey Snide, Daniel

Sat MAR 29 Mat. - Trent Kowalik,Daniel
Eve. - Sam Angell(LAST SHOW), Jonty


Thu APR 10 Mat. - Layton Williams,Jonty
EVE. - Trent Kowalik,Shaun

Fri APR 11 - Corey Snide,Jonty

Sat APR 12 Mat - Joshua Fedrick,Jonty
Eve - Layton Williams,Shaun

Mon APR 14 - Joshua Fedrick,Shaun


Fri May 30 - Corey Snide,Daniel

Sat MAY 31 Mat - Layton Williams,Jonty
Eve - Joshua Fedrick,Daniel (HIS LAST)

Mon Jun 2 - Hogan Fulton, Lewis

Tue Jun 3 - Corey Snide,Jonty

Wed Jun 4 - Hogan Fulton,Shaun

Thu Jun 5 mat - Joshua Fedrick,Shaun
eve - Trent Kowalik,Jonty

Fri Jun 6 - Corey Snide,Jonty

Sat Jun 7 mat - Hogan Fulton,Lewis
eve - Trent Kowalik(HIS LAST LONDON), Shaun

Mon Jun 9 - Corey Snide,Shaun 110


Fri July 4 - Hogan Fulton,Shaun

Sat July 5 Mat - Fox, Lewis
Eve - Corey Snide (HIS LAST), Shaun

Mon July 7 - Hogan Fulton,Shaun
Fri Sept 26 - Layton, Shaun
Sat Sept 27 Mat - Tom Holland, Lewis
Eve - Josh (HIS LAST), Shaun

Thu Nov 27 Mat - Tom, Jonty,
Eve - Fox, Shaun,

Fri Nov 28 - Layton, Jonty,

Sat Nov 29 Mat - Fox, Lewis,
Eve - Layton, Shaun, Alicia (THEIR LAST)

Mon Dec 1 - Brad Wilson(HIS FIRST),Lewis


2009

Wed May 27 - Brad,Dean Charles Chapman

Thu May 28 Mat - Tom, Dean Charles Chapman
EVE - Fox, Lewis

Fri May 29 - Brad,Dean Charles Chapman

Sat May 30 Mat - Ollie Gardner, George Maycock
Eve - Tom, Lewis (HIS LAST)

Mon Jun 1 - Ollie, Jake Pratt (HIS FIRST)

Thu Sept 24 Mat - Fox, George
Eve - Ollie, Conner Doyle

Fri Sept 25 - Fox, George

Sat Sept 26 Mat - Tom, Jake
Eve - Tanner (HIS LAST), George


2010

Tue May 11 - Tom, Joe Massey

Wed May 12 - Dean Charles, Conner Kelly

Thu May 13 Mat - Olly, Conner
EVE - Rhys Yeomans, Jake

Fri May 14 - Dean Charles, Jake

Sat May 15 Mat - Tom (Act 1); Ollie (Act 2), Joe Massey
Eve - Ollie, Conner

I used a lot of cut and paste to remove my Broadway visits from this list. Hope I got it correct.

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Is that all? :lol:
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atreyu wrote:Is that all? :lol:
No, just a sample. We hate to brag. :mrgreen:
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I wanted to give everyone an update as to my request for people’s personal records of the Billys they’ve seen in the past in London.

To date, 6 individuals have come forward with information. As a result, I’ve been able to plug in the Billys for 438 previously unrecorded shows. Thanks to all who have made this possible! Unfortunately however, between 2005 and 2011, there are still 996 unrecorded Billy performances out of about 3800 total shows.

While it’s doubtful that we’ll ever have a complete record of performances from the early years of the show, I’m still very hopeful that we can complete performance records for a few more Billys from the later years of that span.

While I will continue to welcome records anyone has from prior to 2009, either via a post here or an email or private message if you prefer, I’d specifically like to see if we can fill the gaps in the 2009, 2010, and 2011 years. If we were able to do that, we’d have complete records for an additional 5 Billys.

Here are the dates I’m looking to fill from 2011 and 2010. These are from the London production and all curtain times are 7:30pm unless otherwise noted.

2011

1-Jan-2011

2010

28-Dec-2010: 2:30pm & 7:30pm
2-Feb-2010
10-Feb-2010
13-Feb-2010
1-Jan-2010
8-Jan-2010
9-Jan-2010: 2:30pm
11-Jan-2010
22-Jan-2010
26-Jan-2010
28-Jan-2010

I’ll provide the missing dates I’m looking for in 2009 in another post.

Again, thanks to all who have helped in this endeavor. I’m hopeful there are others out there who have the needed information we need to make a more complete record of Billy performances.
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As promised, here are the dates in 2009 I need to fill the gaps of Billy performances in that year.

Here are the 94 shows I’m missing from 2009 in London. All shows listed are at 7:30pm unless otherwise noted by an “M” for matinee.

2009

January: 1,2,3,5,6,12,13,14,19,20,21,23,24,26
February: 3,4,6,9,17,23,24
March: 9,10,11,12,13,14(M+E),16,19,20
April: 2,6,7,8,11(M+E),17,18(M),22,28
May: 9,19,20,22,23
June: 2,3,4,5,6(M),9,10,15,19,20(M),29
July: 1,2,13,15,27,29
August: 3,4,7
September: 5(M),15,16
October: 10(M),16,17(M),19,20,21,24(M+E), 27,28,29,30
November: 17,18,25
December: 4,5,7,18,19(M),22(M),24(M),26(M),28(M),30

If you can supply who the Billy was for any of the above performances, please post the information here or, if you prefer, send me a private message or email. Emails can be sent to porschesrule@yahoo.com.

Thanks again everyone for your help!
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I've been receiving lots of great information for Billy tracking in the early London days from a variety of people. Thanks so much for your input!! Some of this material has raised questions with me about the number and structure of the London previews (Mar 31-May 11, 2005). I'm hoping some of you "old-timers" can help out with my questions.

1) Does anyone know the exact number of previews? From what I understand, for the first week or two there was a reduced number of shows (from the "normal" 8 we're used to) while they worked out a number of issues in the show. My information is that, at least in the very beginning, previews only ran from Thurs to Sat, with no matinees. So my second question is...

2) Can anyone verify that and how long did that last?

3) Were there the full 8 shows being presented each week toward the end of previews?

Thanks for anyone's help with this.
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